{"id":1908,"date":"2019-09-26T13:27:33","date_gmt":"2019-09-26T13:27:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/?p=1908"},"modified":"2019-09-26T13:28:52","modified_gmt":"2019-09-26T13:28:52","slug":"iubirea-nu-e-doar-o-stare-continua-de-entuziasm-interviu-cu-esther-perel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/iubirea-nu-e-doar-o-stare-continua-de-entuziasm-interviu-cu-esther-perel","title":{"rendered":"Iubirea nu e doar o stare continu\u0103 de entuziasm | Interviu cu Esther Perel"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Psihoterapeuta Esther Perel, recunoscut\u0103 \u00een toat\u0103 lumea pentru c\u0103r\u021bile ei revolu\u021bionare<em>,<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" Inteligen\u021ba erotic\u0103 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/carte\/inteligenta-erotica\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Inteligen\u021ba erotic\u0103<\/a><\/em> \u0219i <em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/carte\/regandirea-infidelitatii\/\" target=\"_blank\">Reg\u00e2ndirea infidelit\u0103\u021bii<\/a><\/em>, \u0219i-a dedicat timpul \u0219i via\u021ba \u00eentru ajutorarea oamenilor, a c\u0103l\u0103torit \u00een toat\u0103 lumea \u0219i a vorbit pe \u00een\u021belesul tuturor despre probleme reale din dragoste, despre sex, intimitate \u0219i infidelitate. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A crescut \u00een Antwerp \u0219i e fiica unor\nsupravie\u021buitori ai Holocaustului, ceea ce i-a oferit o direc\u021bie clar\u0103 \u00een via\u021b\u0103.\n\u0218i-a \u00eenceput cariera ca terapeut de familie, focus\u00e2ndu-se pe traume \u0219i\nconflicte culturale. Apoi s-a axat numai pe cupluri, devenind specializarea ei\nclinic\u0103 \u0219i teoretic\u0103. \u00centr-un stil unic, marca Esther Perel, conferin\u021bele \u0219i\nc\u0103r\u021bile ei au o abordare contraintuitiv\u0103 pentru a r\u0103spunde la \u00eentreb\u0103ri\nprovocatoare: <em>Cum au devenit cuplurile unitatea primar\u0103 de organizare a\nsociet\u0103\u021bii? Poate r\u0103m\u00e2ne aprins\u0103 flac\u0103ra romantic\u0103 de-a lungul timpului? Este\ninfidelitatea vreodat\u0103 un lucru bun? <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Acestea fiind spuse, v\u0103 oferim \u00een exclusivitate un interviu cu Esther Perel:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li><strong>Cuplurile nu au fost niciodat\u0103 o unitate central\u0103 \u00een organizarea societ\u0103\u021bii ca acum. De ce?<\/strong><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: Pentru c\u0103 niciodat\u0103 \u00een istoria vie\u021bii de\nfamilie nu a fost relevant\u0103 starea de bine emo\u021bional\u0103 pentru supravie\u021buirea\nfamiliei. Cuplul putea s\u0103 fie nefunc\u021bional timp de 30 de ani, iar tu erai\nprizonier pe via\u021b\u0103, te c\u0103s\u0103toreai o singur\u0103 dat\u0103 \u2013 \u0219i, dac\u0103 nu-\u021bi era bine, nu\nputeai dec\u00e2t s\u0103 speri la o moarte rapid\u0103 a partenerului. C\u0103s\u0103toria era o\ninstitu\u021bie pragmatic\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dar apoi au ap\u0103rut nevoile romatice \u00een cuplu, nevoia de a apar\u021bine \u0219i de a avea pe cineva al\u0103turi. Am urcat \u00een piramida nevoilor lui Maslow, iar acum aducem nevoia de actualizare a sinelui \u00een interiorul c\u0103sniciei. Continu\u0103m s\u0103 vrem mai mult, s\u0103 cerem mai mult. \u00cen ziua de ast\u0103zi cerem de la o persoan\u0103 ceea ce \u00eenainte oferea o \u00eentreag\u0103 comunitate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/carte\/inteligenta-erotica\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Inteligenta-erotica-Bookzone-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Esther Perel Inteligenta erotica Bookzone\" class=\"wp-image-1917 lazyload\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Inteligenta-erotica-Bookzone-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Inteligenta-erotica-Bookzone-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Inteligenta-erotica-Bookzone-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Inteligenta-erotica-Bookzone-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Inteligenta-erotica-Bookzone.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>2.<\/strong> <strong>Crezi c\u0103 oamenii sunt con\u0219tien\u021bi de lucrurile astea c\u00e2nd \u00ee\u0219i caut\u0103 un partener? C\u0103ut\u0103m acel \u201ethe one\u201d, de\u0219i suntem u\u0219or cinici \u00een privin\u021ba asta&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: Nu, nu suntem cinici deloc. Mariajul este un\nagregat de nara\u021biuni multiple. Apar\u021bine oamenilor care sunt \u00een el, c\u00e2t \u0219i celor\ncare \u00eel sprijin\u0103 \u0219i tr\u0103iesc \u00een jurul lui: familie, prieteni, comunitate. Cum am\nmai spus cu alte ocazii, c\u00e2nd \u00ee\u021bi alegi un partener, alegi o poveste \u0219i apoi te\nreg\u0103se\u0219ti \u00eentr-o pies\u0103 de teatru pentru care nu ai dat niciodat\u0103 probe. \u0218i\natunci \u00eencepe nara\u021biunea s\u0103-\u0219i piard\u0103 cursivitatea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prima \u00eentrebare pe care po\u021bi s\u0103 \u021bi-o adresezi, dintr-un punct de vedere cross-cultural este: mariajul are loc \u00eentre doi oameni, \u00een mintea ta? Sau \u00een contextul cultural \u00een care te afli mariajul este \u00eentre dou\u0103 familii? R\u0103spunsul la aceast\u0103 \u00eentrebare ar trebui s\u0103-\u021bi ofere toate informa\u021biile necesare despre limitele unei rela\u021bii.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>3. Ai lucrat ca terapeut mai bine de treizeci de ani. \u00cen acest timp \u2013 \u00een Statele Unite, cu siguran\u021b\u0103, \u0219i \u00een mare parte a lumii \u2013 rela\u021biile s-au schimbat \u00eentr-un mod semnificativ. Acum suntem martori la c\u0103s\u0103torii \u00eentre homosexuali. Femeile aleg s\u0103 fac\u0103 copii mai t\u00e2rziu ca niciodat\u0103. Tehnologia a devenit un factor uria\u0219 \u00een alegerea unui partener \u0219i controleaz\u0103 modul \u00een care p\u0103str\u0103m leg\u0103tura cu el. Care sunt pattern-urile din jurul rela\u021biilor pe care le-ai sesizat \u00een ziua de azi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: Ne-am dezvoltat \u00eentr-un anumit pattern, \u00een\ncare rela\u021biile erau dependente de stilul comunit\u0103\u021bii, de structura comunal\u0103 \u0219i\ntotul era foarte clar. Comunitatea ne-a oferit un sens \u0219i o identitate. \u0218tiam\ncine suntem. \u0218tiam la ce s\u0103 ne a\u0219tept\u0103m de la noi \u00een\u0219ine \u0219i \u0219tiam cum s\u0103 ne\ncomport\u0103m. Aveam certitudine, stabilitate \u0219i zero libertate. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Apoi ne-am urbanizat, ne-am mutat \u0219i am \u00eenceput s\u0103\navem aspira\u021bii materiale \u0219i individuale, iar toate aceste lucruri au creat un\nloc de joac\u0103 \u00een care rela\u021biile sufer\u0103 o mul\u021bime de schimb\u0103ri, \u00eentr-un ritm\nalert. Nu avem nicio idee cum s\u0103 le gestion\u0103m. Regulile au fost \u00eenlocuite cu\nalegeri. \u0218i ne-am ales cu o incertitudine ap\u0103s\u0103toare \u0219i ne\u00eencredere \u00een sine.\nToate c\u0103r\u021bile despre rela\u021bii din ziua de azi sunt despre apar\u021binere \u0219i singur\u0103tate.\n<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Din punctul meu de vedere, acesta este \u201ethe big thing\u201d \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu schimbarea: ceea ce obi\u0219nuia s\u0103 fie definit de reguli, datorie \u0219i obliga\u021bie, acum e \u00eenlocuit de conversa\u021bie. Prin urmare totul a devenit o nenorocit\u0103 de negociere! Negociem cu partenerul despre ceea ce conteaz\u0103, despre locul \u00een care ne dorim s\u0103 locuim, dac\u0103 vrem s\u0103 avem copii, dac\u0103 da, c\u00e2\u021bi copii vrem s\u0103 avem, \u0219i mai ales, dac\u0103 este timpul potrivit s\u0103 \u00eei avem. Este o varietate existen\u021bial\u0103 absolut\u0103. Dar \u00een acela\u0219i timp, este foarte dificil s\u0103 definim totul singuri. Nu suferim f\u0103r\u0103 motiv, asta \u00eencerc s\u0103 subliniez.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>4.<\/strong> <strong>Deci a\u0219tept\u0103rile noastre sunt foarte ridicate, dar performan\u021ba noastr\u0103 e mai sc\u0103zut\u0103. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: Exact. Bun rezumat!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>5. Vreau s\u0103 te \u00eentreb\ndespre iertare, la care m-am g\u00e2ndit mult \u00een ultima vreme. Cum putem avea\na\u0219tept\u0103ri de la oameni care au f\u0103cut mult r\u0103u altora, \u00een rela\u021bii sau \u00een public,\nla munc\u0103 sau oriunde, s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i cear\u0103 iertare? Mi se pare c\u0103 societatea nu permite\nasta. Poten\u021bialul de acceptare e prea mare.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: Acceptarea \u0219i iertarea nu sunt acela\u0219i lucru.\nSunt dou\u0103 sisteme de judecat\u0103, nu? E vorba de sistemul restitutiv \u0219i de\nsistemul retributiv. Primul e focusat pe vindecare. Al doilea pe pedeaps\u0103 sau\nr\u0103zbunare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sud-africanii au creat un sistem pentru\nresponsabilizare: nu-\u021bi ceri iertare; ci devii responsabil. Descrii faptele \u0219i\nla\u0219i libertate persoanei respective s\u0103 decid\u0103 cum vrea s\u0103 procedeze mai\ndeparte. Dac\u0103 vrea s\u0103 ierte, pentru c\u0103 este \u00een interesul ei \u2013 nu s\u0103 ierte \u0219i s\u0103\nspun\u0103 c\u0103 e ok, ci s\u0103 nu tr\u0103iasc\u0103 \u00een continuare cu un nor negru \u00een suflet, cu\ndurere \u0219i ur\u0103 \u2013 e alegerea ei. Gre\u0219eala pe care ai comis-o \u00ee\u021bi apar\u021bine.\nAceasta este o form\u0103 de iertare. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen termeni de vindecare, ceea ce \u0219tim despre\ndurere este universal valabil, dar \u00een\u021belesul pe care-l d\u0103m durerii noastre \u0219i\nmodul \u00een care ne povestim durerea, este influen\u021bat de mediul cultural \u0219i de\ncontext. \u0218i nu e nimic care s\u0103 ne ajute s\u0103 gestion\u0103m mai bine aceste experien\u021be\ndec\u00e2t conexiunea cu ceilal\u021bi. Conexiunea social\u0103 este pastila num\u0103rul 1 \u00een\nreducerea durerii \u0219i a dezam\u0103girii sau a traumei pe care o experiment\u0103m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ceea ce face ca trauma s\u0103 devin\u0103 mai insuportabil\u0103 nu e evenimentul \u00een sine. Ci izolarea, secretul \u0219i ru\u0219inea cu care va trebui s\u0103 tr\u0103ie\u0219ti dup\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>6.<\/strong> <strong>Ai crescut \u00een Belgia, iar p\u0103rin\u021bii t\u0103i au fost supravie\u021buitori ai Holocaustului. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: 60% dintre evreii belgieni erau deporta\u021bi.\nC\u00e2teva mii de copii au sc\u0103pat pentru c\u0103 s-au ascuns. Dup\u0103 r\u0103zboi, \u00eentreaga\ncomunitate de evrei din Belgia \u2013 aproape 40.000 de oameni din 11 milioane \u2013\nerau oameni care s-au \u00eentors din lag\u0103re, din p\u0103duri, din ascunz\u0103tori. Asta e\ntot ce \u0219tim. Iar comunitatea de supravie\u021buitori, la nivel mondial, f\u0103r\u0103\ncontribu\u021bia psihiatrilor sau a psihologilor, a organizat \u00eentruniri \u2013 \u00eent\u00e2lniri pentru\nsupravie\u021buitorii din lag\u0103re, petreceri, plantare de p\u0103duri, tot ce \u021binea de\nrevenirea la via\u021b\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A fost pentru prima dat\u0103 c\u00e2nd oamenii au \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 exist\u0103 acest fenomen \u2013 trauma la v\u00e2rst\u0103 adult\u0103. \u00cenainte de asta, g\u00e2ndirea Freudian\u0103 spunea c\u0103 sunt \u0219anse \u00eentre 0-5. Iar acum avem o no\u021biune despre faptul c\u0103 ai fi putut fi bine mersi \u00eenainte, dar un eveniment cataclismic precum acesta te poate distruge, iar singura variant\u0103 prin care mai po\u021bi g\u0103si un sens s\u0103 continui, s\u0103 ai un scop, s\u0103 ai o conexiune, este prin intermediul \u00eent\u00e2lnirii cu al\u021bii. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>7. P\u0103rin\u021bii t\u0103i au fost singurii supravie\u021buitori ai familiilor lor. Cum a fost asta ca \u0219i copil, cresc\u00e2nd \u00een acest tip de familie? Cum ar\u0103ta c\u0103snicia lor? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: Pentru mul\u021bi oameni care s-au c\u0103s\u0103torit dup\u0103\ncel de-al Doilea R\u0103zboi Mondial, era ceva de genul \u201eeu sunt singur, tu e\u0219ti\nsingur\u0103, am pierdut totul \u0219i tu ai pierdut totul, hai s\u0103 ne c\u0103s\u0103torim.\u201d Acesta\nera modul \u00een care cei mai mul\u021bi oameni s-au cuplat. \u0218i mul\u021bi dintre ei, odat\u0103\nce au \u00eenceput s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i reconstruiasc\u0103 via\u021ba, au realizat c\u0103 nu au prea multe \u00een\ncomun. Eu am fost chiar norocoas\u0103. P\u0103rin\u021bii mei s-au \u00eent\u00e2lnit \u00een ziua\neliber\u0103rii, pe strad\u0103. Ea era mult mai educat\u0103, iar el mai degrab\u0103 analfabet.\nDe aceea el a adorat-o toat\u0103 via\u021ba. Ceea ce a creat un mediu foarte pl\u0103cut.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dar cred c\u0103 o diferen\u021b\u0103 mai important\u0103 \u00eentre\nfamilia mea \u0219i altele \u2013 \u0219i po\u021bi pune asta pe seama traumei \u2013 este c\u0103 dup\u0103 o\nastfel de experien\u021b\u0103, r\u0103m\u00e2n dou\u0103 tipuri de oameni: care <em>nu sunt mor\u021bi<\/em> \u0219i\ncare <em>tr\u0103iesc<\/em>. Unii oameni supravie\u021buiesc, iar al\u021bii \u00eencearc\u0103 s\u0103 tr\u0103iasc\u0103\ndin nou. Existau case morbide \u2013 nu te puteai bucura, pentru c\u0103, dac\u0103 te\nbucurai, dac\u0103 experimentai pl\u0103cere, \u00eensemna c\u0103 nu e\u0219ti vigilent, c\u0103 nu e\u0219ti \u00een\ngard\u0103, c\u0103 nu e\u0219ti atent la un posibil pericol.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0218i apoi erau oamenii care \u00eentr-un mod con\u0219tient, au ales s\u0103 ia via\u021ba drept o provocare \u0219i s\u0103 tr\u0103iasc\u0103 fiecare clip\u0103 cu intensitate. \u0218i sunt foarte norocoas\u0103 \u00een acest sens, \u00eentruc\u00e2t am crescut \u00eentr-o familie care face parte din aceast\u0103 categorie. Nu puteai fi sup\u0103rat timp de dou\u0103 minute, c\u0103 cineva te \u00eentreba \u201eCe s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat? Care-i problema?\u201d . Nu puteai avea vreodat\u0103 o problem\u0103 suficient de serioas\u0103 \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 stai sup\u0103rat, pentru c\u0103 nimic nu se compara cu Auschwitz. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>8.<\/strong> <strong>Interesant. \u0218i c\u00e2nd ai \u00eenceput s\u0103 lucrezi cu cupluri? De ce te-ai focusat pe latura asta?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: &nbsp;Am\nfost interesat\u0103 de problemele imigran\u021bilor \u0219i legate de identitate de c\u00e2nd eram\nt\u00e2n\u0103r\u0103. Am studiat rela\u021biile culturale \u0219i identitatea religioas\u0103, c\u00e2t \u0219i\nformarea identit\u0103\u021bii. Cum se schimb\u0103 \u00een func\u021bie de migrarea voluntar\u0103 sau de migrarea\nfor\u021bat\u0103? \u0218i, \u00een special, m-am interesat de identitatea evreilor \u0219i cum\nevolueaz\u0103 diferit \u00een func\u021bie de contextul na\u021bional. Care este diferen\u021ba dintre\nevreii din America, Australia, Africa de Sud, Germania, Argentina \u0219i Israel?\nA\u0219a am \u00eenceput s\u0103 studiez modul \u00een care rela\u021biile se schimb\u0103 odat\u0103 cu\nschimb\u0103rile culturale. Am petrecut dou\u0103zeci de ani \u00eencerc\u00e2nd s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg cum se\nmodific\u0103 dinamica rela\u021biilor \u0219i familiilor din punct de vedere cultural, rasial\n\u0219i religios, \u0219i abia apoi am \u00eenceput s\u0103 scriu despre sexualitate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/carte\/regandirea-infidelitatii\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Regandirea-infidelitatii-Bookzone-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Esther Perel Regandirea infidelitatii Bookzone\" class=\"wp-image-1918 lazyload\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Regandirea-infidelitatii-Bookzone-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Regandirea-infidelitatii-Bookzone-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Regandirea-infidelitatii-Bookzone-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Regandirea-infidelitatii-Bookzone-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bookzone.ro\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Esther-Perel-Regandirea-infidelitatii-Bookzone.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Terapia de cuplu a continuat, natural, \u00een urma terapiei de familie. Pentru c\u0103, \u00een trecut, oamenii veneau la terapie pentru c\u0103 aveau un copil cu probleme. Acesta era motivul pentru care venea \u00eentreaga familie. \u00cens\u0103, de cele mai multe ori, simptomele copilului porneau de la disfunc\u021biile din cuplu. \u0218i, treptat, am \u00eencercat s\u0103-i conving pe adul\u021bi s\u0103 vin\u0103. Terapia de cuplu este cea mai dificil\u0103. \u0218i de multe ori, nefolositoare. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>9.<\/strong> <strong>Care ar fi sfaturile pe care le-ai da cititorilor?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E.P: Le-a\u0219 sugera s\u0103 \u00eencerce trei lucruri acas\u0103,\ncu partenerul de via\u021b\u0103:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1. <em>Fii atent\/\u0103 la lucrurile care sunt\nimportante pentru cel\u0103lalt<\/em>. Ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 \u00eentr-un cuplu, \u0219i este extrem de\nnes\u0103n\u0103tos, este c\u0103 oferim adesea ceea ce a\u0219tept\u0103m la r\u00e2ndul nostru. Dac\u0103 el\neste sup\u0103rat, nu vorbe\u0219ti cu el, pentru c\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd tu e\u0219ti sup\u0103rat\u0103, te\nsim\u021bi singur\u0103. Dac\u0103 \u0219tii cum te sim\u021bi c\u00e2nd nu-\u021bi ofer\u0103 afec\u021biune \u00een cele mai\nur\u00e2te momente, de ce nu schimbi asta pentru el? \u00cen felul acesta \u00eei schimbi \u0219i\nlui percep\u021bia asupra lucrurilor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2. <em>Rolurile sunt deseori pattern-uri, nu\nobiceiuri<\/em>. Dac\u0103 \u00ee\u021bi dore\u0219ti \u00eentr-adev\u0103r ca cel\u0103lalt s\u0103 duc\u0103 gunoiul,\ntrebuie s\u0103 fii capabil\u0103 s\u0103 petreci dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni cu gunoiul \u00een cas\u0103. Nu spui\nnimic. Doar a\u0219tep\u021bi p\u00e2n\u0103 c\u00e2nd cel\u0103lalt observ\u0103, \u00eentr-un final. C\u00e2nd nu e\u0219ti\nacolo, cel\u0103lalt se ocup\u0103 de lucrurile astea. Le poate face. Doar c\u0103 prefer\u0103 s\u0103\nte lase pe tine dac\u0103 tot e\u0219ti acas\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>3. <em>Femeile nu sunt mai pu\u021bin interesate de sex\nca b\u0103rba\u021bii, ele sunt mai pu\u021bin interesate de sexul de care au parte. <\/em>Ce\nface o femeie s\u0103-\u0219i piard\u0103 interesul? Domesticitatea. Faptul c\u0103 a devenit mam\u0103.\nMama se g\u00e2nde\u0219te la ceilal\u021bi tot timpul. Mama nu este preocupat\u0103 de ea \u00eens\u0103\u0219i.\nPentru a avea libidoul crescut trebuie s\u0103 te concentrezi pe tine. Nu e vorba de\nhormoni. Ci doar trebuie s\u0103-\u021bi schimbi povestea pe care o tr\u0103ie\u0219ti. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>10. O ultim\u0103 \u00eentrebare. Ai o defini\u021bie\nuniversal valabil\u0103 pentru <em>iubire<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Este un verb. Acesta-i primul lucru pe care vreau\ns\u0103-l accentuez. Este o implicare activ\u0103 cu tot felul de emo\u021bii \u2013 pozitive,\nprimitive \u0219i dezam\u0103gitoare. Dar este un verb foarte activ. \u0218i e adesea\nsurprinz\u0103tor cum poate s\u0103 treac\u0103 de la flux la reflux. Iubirea nu este o stare\npermanent\u0103 de entuziasm. Sunt de 35 de ani \u00eentr-o rela\u021bie &#8211; practic. \u0218i am doi\nb\u0103ie\u021bi \u2013 din nou, practic. Nu e vorba doar despre iubirea romantic\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cred c\u0103 defini\u021bia iubirii de azi e \u2013 \u201etu e\u0219ti totul meu\u201d \u2013 vezi aceast\u0103 exaltare complet\u0103 doar la jur\u0103mintele de la nunt\u0103. Ai observat vreodat\u0103? E ceva de genul \u201e\u00ce\u021bi voi \u0219terge fiecare lacrim\u0103 \u00eenainte s\u0103 realizezi c\u0103 o s\u0103 cad\u0103.\u201d Cred c\u0103 jur\u0103m\u00e2ntul real ar fi \u201eVoi gre\u0219i \u00een mod regulat \u0219i, din c\u00e2nd \u00een c\u00e2nd, voi recunoa\u0219te.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Surse:  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/lifeandstyle\/2018\/sep\/30\/esther-perel-fix-the-sex-and-your-relationship-will-transform-esther-perel\">https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/lifeandstyle\/2018\/sep\/30\/esther-perel-fix-the-sex-and-your-relationship-will-transform-esther-perel<\/a>  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/culture\/the-new-yorker-interview\/love-is-not-a-permanent-state-of-enthusiasm-an-interview-with-esther-perel\">https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/culture\/the-new-yorker-interview\/love-is-not-a-permanent-state-of-enthusiasm-an-interview-with-esther-perel<\/a> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Psihoterapeuta Esther Perel, recunoscut\u0103 \u00een toat\u0103 lumea pentru c\u0103r\u021bile ei revolu\u021bionare, Inteligen\u021ba erotic\u0103 \u0219i Reg\u00e2ndirea infidelit\u0103\u021bii, \u0219i-a dedicat timpul \u0219i via\u021ba \u00eentru ajutorarea oamenilor, a c\u0103l\u0103torit \u00een toat\u0103 lumea \u0219i a vorbit pe \u00een\u021belesul tuturor despre probleme reale din dragoste, despre sex, intimitate \u0219i infidelitate. 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